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Anyone else here into Star Trek?

Posted 11 Months ago by Weird Occurance

I've been rewatching a lot of it and I *love* Voyager.

I actually prefer Janeway over Piccard by a mile and think the situations of the Voyager crew are far more dire than the Enterprise's, as Voyager has no real Star Fleet backup. Seeing how the captain and crew have to make it on their own adds an extra layer of depth and intrigue, imo and it becomes more about the allies they make along the way and the fallout from trouble they cause with their sometimes questionable alliances.

I have never watched DS9, but I think it takes place on a Space Station, right? ...Seeing as I kind of like Babylon5, maybe I'd like it?

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Voyager suffers from a lack of direction. Different writers clearly had different ideas and it causes all sorts of oddities, not least of which is that Janeway sometimes feels like she's got some kind of multiple personality disorder when one episode she's as strict on Starfleet code as Picard would be, and then in the next she's willing to break every rule in the book. I still really enjoyed the show though despite its flaws.

I have never watched DS9, but I think it takes place on a Space Station, right? ...Seeing as I kind of like Babylon5, maybe I'd like it?


If you like Babylon 5 then there's a good chance you'll like Deep Space 9. While I am biased and think Babylon 5 is one of the best, if not the best, tv show ever made, I did really enjoy DS9 and that's probably because they are sort of similar shows.

Whereas TNG and VOY are more focused on the exploration side of things, DS9 does spend a lot of its time on the space station. They manage to make it work though by having the exploration come to them, usually in the form of visitors to the station. DS9 also delves into some less utopian aspects of the lore/universe, especially in relation to war and how people handle it. They delve way more into lore & society of the major factions that showed up throughout TNGs run: Ferangi, Romulans, Klingons, Cardassians. They also added possibly my favourite star trek faction in the form of The Dominion who serve the role as a sort of anti-federation- they're an "alliance" of multiple races but much more authoritarian and instead of working towards a common good for all they exist primarily to safeguard 'The Founders'. It's also a really fun cast a characters who get a lot of development.

They also do move away from it being exclusively about the space station. They'll take shuttles to other planets from time to time and as the more serialised story starts to show up it started to necessitate more and more scenes away from the station... But much like the other shows with their star ships, most of the screen time is spent within the station itself.

If you're a TNG and VOY fan then there's a very good chance you'll enjoy DS9.

11 Months ago
Moonray

Voyager suffers from a lack of direction. Different writers clearly had different ideas and it causes all sorts of oddities, not least of which is that Janeway sometimes feels like she's got some kind of multiple personality disorder when one episode she's as strict on Starfleet code as Picard would be, and then in the next she's willing to break every rule in the book. I still really enjoyed the show though despite its flaws.


True. But I often find Janeway to be far more likable. I think her empathy is obvious.
The one episode I felt jarred by the writing and lack of direction was one where she was going to go in after that Omega molecule, alone, with 7 Of 9. And it felt like that was the one time she was written to not have like a people-first or a we're-in-this-together attitude.

I also feel like the show has a "I'm alone" episode for every single character, which is proving to be a bit much. I guess there's a lack of variance when we're talking about multiple seasons of a crew trying to traverse deep space to get home, but I still appreciate the long-term character development we've been seeing.

I like Neelix's connection with every individual character.
I like Janeway and Jakote.
I outfight sobbed in the episode where the Doctor had a family - I will never watch that again.
I got teary-eyed when 7 said "You are hurting me" in the episode that started with her practicing smiling.
I've liked seeing the Doctor teaching 7 how to be more human lol
And Tom Paris has changed so much, too, since his distanced interactions in the first few episodes.
And I keep waiting to see if Jakote and Janeway will ever get together, though I'm also secretly shipping Janeway and 7, but that's more out of personal love for both of those characters.

The acting really is great, too.

It's just, fun to see how all these characters grow and interact, but sometimes the plots *feel* repetitive. And sometimes the characters do act a bit oddly.

If you like Babylon 5 then there's a good chance you'll like Deep Space 9. While I am biased and think Babylon 5 is one of the best, if not the best, tv show ever made, I did really enjoy DS9 and that's probably because they are sort of similar shows.


Babylon 5's pretty great.
I like SG-1 more, but Babylon 5 is criminally underrated.

They also do move away from it being exclusively about the space station. They'll take shuttles to other planets from time to time and as the more serialised story starts to show up it started to necessitate more and more scenes away from the station... But much like the other shows with their star ships, most of the screen time is spent within the station itself.


Sounds interesting!

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11 Months ago
Weird Occurance

I preferred the original series cause I liked the ship, the Constitution class ships my favorite characters. The later versions were to focused on personal drama, soap operas, for my liking and the ships got ugly. I prefer action adventure, shoot em ups, car chases, explosions, airplane, space ship crashes, ect.

11 Months ago
Psygnosis

I preferred the original series cause I liked the ship, the Constitution class ships my favorite characters. The later versions were to focused on personal drama, soap operas, for my liking and the ships got ugly. I prefer action adventure, shoot em ups, car chases, explosions, airplane, space ship crashes, ect.


That's fair! I've seen Voyager as a bit of a soap opera set in space. I even told someone that recently haha

I'm a huge fan of characters / character arcs in movies and TV shows, but every now and then need an action movie / show for a pick-me-up lol

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11 Months ago
Weird Occurance

I've seen a significant amount of TOS and TNG, and I consider it overall to be one of my favorite serials.

Any time I am in a hotel, hospital, etc., I demand that the television be set to BBC America or whatever station is playing Star Trek at the time.

11 Months ago
galbraith

I've seen a significant amount of TOS and TNG, and I consider it overall to be one of my favorite serials.


I never thought I'd find Star Trek as good as I have, but it's quite enjoyable.

Despite my current fascination with Voyager, TNG was *amazing*.

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11 Months ago
Weird Occurance

I have never watched DS9, but I think it takes place on a Space Station, right? ...Seeing as I kind of like Babylon5, maybe I'd like it?


DS9 was the best series in Star Trek IMO because it has the most character growth for every major and minor character. Sisko is also the best captain because he will do whatever it takes to protect family, friends and the federation including covering up a murder of a Romulan ship and its crew to get them to join the federation and fight against the dominion. It also doesn’t shy away from showing the affects of ptsd and what a prolonged war with a more powerful enemy would do to people.

Each series and captain brought their own flavor style and flavor to the series. Even ST:Enterprise is better than it was initially received as back in 2001-2005 and honestly shouldnt have been canceled, but was a victim of series fatigue and ST Nemesis sucking almost all the dicks with Stuart Baird running it into the ground.

The Too 5 Star Trek movies are Wrath of Kahn, Search for Spock, Voyage Home, Undiscovered Country and First Contact. The JJ Abrams movies are pretty good. Discovery is decent, it has good characters but can’t stop tripping over itself trying to be big and grandiose but then falling flat and Picard is ok also but can’t get out of it’s own way to actually follow through on plot points. Lower Decks is actually pretty good and even though it’s an animated comedy it’s feels more like Star Trek than all the other new series.

11 Months ago
Q2
 

I really liked the one with Baby Yoda.

11 Months ago
Jet Presto

DS9 was the best series in Star Trek IMO because it has the most character growth for every major and minor character


I have no idea why I haven't given DS9 a chance. It gets a crazy tone of fans saying it's their favorite.

I'll give it a chance when I'm done with Voyager, I guess haha

Each series and captain brought their own flavor style and flavor to the series


Agree! I like that each captain is memorable and unique. Even Kirk in all his... Kirkness.

The Too 5 Star Trek movies are Wrath of Kahn, Search for Spock, Voyage Home, Undiscovered Country and First Contact


Of those, I've only seen Wrath of Kahn, but hear First Contact is amazing.

I hear one of the movies heavily covers some Borg stuff? But I don't know which.

The JJ Abrams movies are pretty good


This has been considered an unpopular movie, but I quite liked them! They were actually my entry point into watching Star Trek.

I really liked the one with Baby Yoda.


Lol!

You just made me remember to bring up - I have no idea why people who hate Star Wars tend to hate Star Trek, vice versa. They're completely different and bring different things to the table. To me it seems to be on the same tier as the DC vs Marvel superfans, but that's a topic for another thread. lol

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11 Months ago
Weird Occurance

"The Too 5 Star Trek movies are Wrath of Kahn, Search for Spock, Voyage Home, Undiscovered Country and First Contact."

"Galaxy Quest" was one of the best Star Trek movies.
"Never give up, never surrender" ~Baby Yoda

11 Months ago
Psygnosis

"Galaxy Quest" was one of the best Star Trek movies. "Never give up, never surrender" ~Baby Yoda


Normally I’d agree but I was talking specifically Star Trek. But yea Galaxy Quest is a gem and often is brought up at trek conventions.

11 Months ago
Q2
 

"Galaxy Quest" was one of the best Star Trek movies.

"Never give up, never surrender" ~Baby Yoda


I watched Galaxy quest once and it quickly asserted itself in my top 3 favorite movies of all time. I love that you brought it up haha

I've since seen it 3 or 4 times and could definitely stand another rewatch.

Normally I’d agree but I was talking specifically Star Trek. But yea Galaxy Quest is a gem and often is brought up at trek conventions.


Q2, have you been to a trek convention?

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11 Months ago
Weird Occurance

Q2, have you been to a trek convention?


Yes……… when I was like 10 years old in 1994 lol. I’ve always wanted to go to another one but I’ve always had things interfere with going and now with covid it’s even hard lol

11 Months ago
Q2
 

Yes……… when I was like 10 years old in 1994 lol. I’ve always wanted to go to another one but I’ve always had things interfere with going and now with covid it’s even hard lol


I think it'd be fun.

I've been to a number of anime cons and they're great fun.

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11 Months ago
Weird Occurance

So in July of 2013 I had a lay over at the Seattle airport and got out in a hotel across the highway from it. While I was standing outside to get my bags off of the shuttle bus, I looked over and say a crowing of furries/bronies. After investigating there was some kind of convention going on for them.

11 Months ago
Q2
 

Have gone to a few anime cons. Some good, some very bad. Want to go to more in the future, both because they're generally cool, because I want to do some cosplay and because I think it would be a fun context for my partner and I to flirt with people.

11 Months ago
galbraith

So in July of 2013 I had a lay over at the Seattle airport and got out in a hotel across the highway from it. While I was standing outside to get my bags off of the shuttle bus, I looked over and say a crowing of furries/bronies. After investigating there was some kind of convention going on for them.


My god. Must’ve been a sight to see. I’ve only ever seen anime cons.
… that wasn’t the infamous rainfurest con of 2013 was it? Lol

both because they're generally cool, because I want to do some cosplay and because I think it would be a fun context for my partner and I to flirt with people.


You’ve got some confidence! I’m actually more self-conscious when I’m in cosplay unless I’m wearing a full mask or something. At any rate, I can’t get into character and become stranger shy. But still love cosplay for some reason lol

What are some cosplays you’ve done or what to do?

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11 Months ago
Weird Occurance

I am also a fan of Star Trek, including every TV show and every movie in the franchise.
I can also see the point of several criticisms of various series or episodes or movies; or even of the whole franchise.
But even when I agree with the critics that what they say are flaws are indeed truly flaws, it doesn’t ruin the show for me.

….. ….. ….. …..

As for going to cons etc:
There is a 3- or 4- day con here in the Detroit area this coming weekend Fri 1 Oct — Mon 4 Oct.
I’ll have to miss it.
There’s something else going on at the same time that I’d also like to go to but will also have to miss.
I’ll try to see my daughter then instead.

11 Months ago
chiarizio
 

But even when I agree with the critics that what they say are flaws are indeed truly flaws, it doesn’t ruin the show for me.


That’s how I feel about what I’ve seen of the show!

And I’m sorry you’ll be missing the con! Hope your other plans are enjoyable.

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11 Months ago
Weird Occurance

What are some cosplays you’ve done or what to do?


I've cosplayed as L from Death Note back when I was a skinny nerd. That was pretty popular, and it wasn't very demanding on my introverted personality.



I've been planning to cosplay a Psycho from Borderlands. It's something that I've wanted to do for years, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. The axe and mask are a little more complicated than I can piece together by myself, and I'd have to show some skin for that one, so I need to be a bit more confident in my fitness.



11 Months ago
galbraith

I've cosplayed as L from Death Note back when I was a skinny nerd. That was pretty popular, and it wasn't very demanding on my introverted personality.


Very nice! I never got into Death Note, but yes, this is an extremely popular cosplay and character.

I'd have to show some skin for that one, so I need to be a bit more confident in my fitness.


I hope you get to this point so you can live out your dream cosplay.

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11 Months ago
Weird Occurance

I’ve never cosplayed as anybody or anything.
I’d like to cosplay as Bosun Higgs or Boatswain Higgs.
It’s just the first thing that came to mind.

11 Months ago
chiarizio
 

I’d like to cosplay as Bosun Higgs or Boatswain Higgs.


That'd be cool.

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11 Months ago
Weird Occurance

I’d like to cosplay as Bosun Higgs or Boatswain Higgs.



That would be pretty smashing indeed!

10 Months ago
elemtilas
 

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