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Cool story. If you don't care about the opinions of others in regard to your beliefs, why did you post this?

Over 1 Year ago
Axem Great Water

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Okay?

Over 1 Year ago
Axem Great Water

What options are there for opting out? the main ones I can think of are free emigration or assisted suicide for those of us who do n't wnat to be part of it?

Over 1 Year ago
tnu

Now that I think about it, shouldn't this be in Politics & World? Anyone know how to get Riven's attention?

Over 1 Year ago
Axem Great Water

Anyone know how to get Riven's attention?


Like that. Fixed.

Over 1 Year ago
Xhin
Sky's the limit

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Ones that are probably more numerous and more humane than attempting to "opt out" of imperialism, lmao.


Please be specific.

Over 1 Year ago
tnu

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I care about my options to remove myself from it.

Over 1 Year ago
tnu

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left un ity usually j sut means aligning with the tankies.

Over 1 Year ago
tnu

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If you really wan't communism to succeed you're goign to be mroe convicning than that.

Over 1 Year ago
tnu

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I never said me. I mean anyone who isn't already biased twoards communism.The only al ternative to convincing them is to subjugate them. So far you've not even been able to gi ve a single straightforward answer to a single question. All you've done is deflect and make excuses for why you won't answer.

Over 1 Year ago
tnu

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Who said it was? Your responses are extremely telling as is however.

Over 1 Year ago
tnu

Loll!!


In short, LOLL!!


lmao.


LOLL!!


What joke am I missing here?

Also why did you start this thread if you're not looking for debate or discussion?

Over 1 Year ago
Xhin
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Over 1 Year ago
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My opinion about Marxism is, Das Kapital is the best cure for insomnia that exists.

Over 1 Year ago
chiarizio
 

Debate is a very specific thing that we have been taught to expect and very specific term that we have been taught to apply haphazardly


Uhh, I meant debate in the colloquial sense of the word. Having an actually structured, moderated, and turn-based debate here would be pretty interesting.

I can mark the relevant threads with "no debate"


I expect that to backfire horribly.

But again, why did you start this thread if you're not looking for discussion or (the colloquial definition of) debate?

Over 1 Year ago
Xhin
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I asked you a question, you dodged it and brought up something I never mentioned in your response to me I'm not saying y ou need to convince me but if you think you can achieve communism and win allies without making the effort to convince people at all to the point of dodging basic questions I doubt you'll get far. Unless you're a tankie intent on forcing complience form people. Not sure if you are but if you are it would seemingly answer my question.

Over 1 Year ago
tnu

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sorry amended my thread but anyway

Inasmuch as I care about winning allies, I prefer to do it by action.


Fair. Out of curiosity what sort of direct action do you support? co-ops? syndcialism? building mutual aid societies?

and again my original question what are the options for those who wish to opt out?

Over 1 Year ago
tnu

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i.e. will people be allowed to parctice systems other thancommunism or will they nessecarily be folded in to the system? Liberalism for example.

Over 1 Year ago
tnu

Like I said, I'm fine with discussion. If someone wants to start framing it as me convincing them, I'm going to blow it off


Fair enough.

Over 1 Year ago
Xhin
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I've had some first-hand experience now of syndicalist organizations and co-ops and they're absolutely fantastic structures to operate within.

I don't think wealth necessarily flows from worker exploitation, but disproportionate wealth definitely does. Maintaining a low-tier "rich" lifestyle should be possible with enough work, automation, valued artistry, or as part of a co-op group with similar lifestyles.

Even if the neoliberal system that we live in doesn't want to allow it.


The neoliberal system we're in allows for both co-ops and syndicalism, and also has an economic framework that allows for them to compete (and do quite well -- Ocean Spray is always my favorite example).

Over 1 Year ago
Xhin
Sky's the limit

Maybe talk more later I don't k now sorry i'm tired.

Over 1 Year ago
tnu

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